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| Message Board > Fenix / Bennu / Gemix / DIV > Map editor & Flamebird |
| June 20, 2006, 21:48 | |
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danko
Whiskered 31 posts |
Hello, this is my first post here. I'm one of the developers of flamebird (an IDE for fenix). I'd like to tell you something related to this IDE. Although the project was left for a long time, we decided to continue it one month ago (more or less) and we have been working on it. Besides bug fixes, one of the major changes introduced in the next release will be the map editor whose purpose is to make easy working with fenix map files (allowing modifying control points, conversion betwen 8 and 16 bits, etc). An integrated fpg editor is comming soon too. For you to have an idea of how the map editor will work, I have uploaded a small application that allows working with maps. Notice that is just a small application to test some code we will include at FB and so its interface is a bit rudimentary and not very user-friendly. I would be grateful if you informed me of possible bugs (if maps are not displayed correctly or maps generated with the editor are not opened by fenix, etc). Transparency is disabled for now so dont take it in mind. I recommend not using important map files (I have not tested if maps generated can be read by fenix). The application can be found here: http://fbtwo.sf.net/garbage/mappreview2.zip The program requires to work the GDI+ Libraries (if you have winXp you have them already installed) and VB6 Runtimes. Well, that's all. If you have any comment about flamebird make us know. Danko [Edited on June 20, 2006 by danko] ____________ |
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| June 21, 2006, 04:54 | |
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Rhovanion
Exterminated 666 posts |
hi Danko, I remember you from somewhere. I thought Fenix was long dead, but I'm glad I hear "something" of it. personally I used to have Flamebird installed, but I prefer Fenix Desktop for its simplicity. ____________ |
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| June 21, 2006, 09:29 | |
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Quiest
now with more happynes 142 posts 
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He is working on Flamebird, not on Fenix. And I`m quite happy you continue the work, cause I prefer Flamebird  EDIT: Please tell me where to get the gdi+ libraries, I`m sitting on a Win98 pc here, and I can`t get anything to run. [Edited on June 21, 2006 by Quiest] ____________ Roundhousekick to the face, baby! |
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| June 21, 2006, 10:19 | |
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danko
Whiskered 31 posts |
Well, it can be found at MS Download Page but I've uploaded it to http://fbtwo.sf.net/garbage/gdiplus.zip . Thanks for your interest. Whatever IDE you use I think there is no application that allows modifying map properties and performing conversion betwen formats directly (well, of course there is the map.exe utility). That's why I think an application like this can be useful. Integration with flamebird is just an excuse to have it work. Danko ____________ |
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| June 21, 2006, 11:02 | |
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Quiest
now with more happynes 142 posts
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Thanks, but I still can`t get Flamebird to run on this Win98 machine o.O Now that I have the gdi+ dll, just the starting screen of flamebird appears (where it is registering stuff, etc.) and then it just quits... any ideas? ____________ Roundhousekick to the face, baby! |
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| June 21, 2006, 12:38 | |
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danko
Whiskered 31 posts |
Well I thought you wanted to run the map preview editor not the Flamebird IDE. Actually fb doesn't run under win98 due to some active x controls we use (that are inteded to be substituted), sorry :(. Anyway, the release of fb avaiable at the project page continues being the old one. ____________ |
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| June 21, 2006, 23:42 | |
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Rincewind
programmer 1546 posts 
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Hey Danko, welcome to Booleansoup! Quoting Danko: If you have any comment about flamebird make us know. If I remember correctly, Flamebird was kind of annoying because I couldn't change font size, font type, highlighting colors, line distance etc. Basically I wanted a lot more lines on my screen than Flamebird gave me, so Flamebird was unusable. I would really appreciate it if you guys make such things customisable. As for something else, I would really like function folding!  As for your map editor, it looks nice. Converting between color depths and zooming work fine. It would be nice if you make everything totally English though (your error messages are partly Spanish). And being able to set the control point by clicking on the map would be cool too.
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| June 22, 2006, 01:45 | |
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Transdiv
Whiskered 38 posts |
Quoting Rhovanion: hi Danko, I remember you from somewhere. I thought Fenix was long dead, but I'm glad I hear "something" of it. personally I used to have Flamebird installed, but I prefer Fenix Desktop for its simplicity. The problem is the two main developers (Cebrian and Slainte), are now with full work; Probably there will be no new version for a while. BTW - Anyone knows what happend to Mike Green and DXDiv? Maybe if they will not complete it, they must give it to the free & open source community Transdiv ____________ |
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| June 22, 2006, 02:39 | |
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Rhovanion
Exterminated 666 posts |
I'd like some auto-completion function for variables (ctrl+space), so I don't have to invent abreviations all the time or retyping the variables all over again. currently Ctrl+space (while holding it) gives a complete list of all the functions (?) available in fenix. not "completing" what you typed. for the rest, one button compile, will do. I don't know this map editor is a "need" though; more a "nice-to-have". [Edited on June 22, 2006 by Rhovanion] ____________ |
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| June 22, 2006, 03:18 | |
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Fiona
games are terrible -9616558 posts 
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Quoting Transdiv: BTW - Anyone knows what happend to Mike Green and DXDiv? Fasttrak got sold, DivDX stopped development. It will never be finished.Quoting Transdiv: Maybe if they will not complete it, they must give it to the free & open source community And this will never happen. ____________ laffo |
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| June 22, 2006, 12:16 | |
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danko
Whiskered 31 posts |
Quote: I would really appreciate it if you guys make such things customisable. As for something else, I would really like function folding! Customizing the code editor is obviously a needed feature we will add. Function folding would be also nice but for the moment there are other matters to solve first. I'm also thinking in adding an "expert mode" (to hide everything except the code editor and a compact toolbar) for those who claim for simplicity. If you have any other idea, tell me, I'm about to finsish my finals and I want to start working on FB. Quote: As for your map editor, it looks nice. Thank you four for having test it. The reason to have some error messages in spanish is simply laziness (I think faster in spanish than in english... that's what happens when you live in spain :P) and of couse will be fully translated once integrated the map editor in Flamebird. Converting between color depths and zooming work fine. It would be nice if you make everything totally English though (your error messages are partly Spanish). And being able to set the control point by clicking on the map would be cool too.Setting control points by clicking also have to be add but I thought it wasn't very important for the moment, but I'm reconsidering it. --- Quote: I'd like some auto-completion function for variables (ctrl+space), so I don't have to invent abreviations all the time or retyping the variables all over again. currently Ctrl+space (while holding it) gives a complete list of all the functions (?) available in fenix. not "completing" what you typed. Actually if you hit enter when the list of functions appears it does complete what you typed but I didn't like how this work so maby this is a good chance to change it and add auto-completion for variables. Thanks very much for your comments. Danko ____________ |
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| June 22, 2006, 13:03 | |
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Sandman
F3n!x0r 1194 posts 
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Quoting danko: Actually if you hit enter when the list of functions appears it does complete what you typed but I didn't like how this work so maby this is a good chance to change it and add auto-completion for variables. I don't like that too, because if you have a variable "hellothere" and you want to type "hello" and then hit enter, it starts messing with you. I'm probably stating the obvious again. ____________ BennuWiki Yes, my avatar has grey borders in IE (so get a decent browser) ROOFLEZ ROOFLEZ |
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| June 22, 2006, 13:49 | |
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PEader
お前はもう死んでいる 1486 posts 
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Quoting Ferret: Quoting Transdiv: BTW - Anyone knows what happend to Mike Green and DXDiv? Fasttrak got sold, DivDX stopped development. It will never be finished.Quoting Transdiv: Maybe if they will not complete it, they must give it to the free & open source community And this will never happen. I thought the booleansoup admins were going to buy it. ;'-( you guys hurt me so much on that, I'm still reeling. ____________ I see 57,005 people. |
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| June 26, 2006, 01:31 | |
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Rhovanion
Exterminated 666 posts |
DIV is done for, too old. based on ancient program languages such as Pascal.
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| June 26, 2006, 01:46 | |
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Rincewind
programmer 1546 posts
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Quoting Rhovanion: DIV is done for, too old. based on ancient program languages such as Pascal. What does that matter? ____________ Personal website: http://www.loijson.com |
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| June 26, 2006, 06:54 | |
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Fiona
games are terrible -9616558 posts
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Quoting Rincewind: Quoting Rhovanion: DIV is done for, too old. based on ancient program languages such as Pascal. What does that matter? 
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