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| February 11, 2008, 00:13 | |
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Htbaa
Perl 368 posts 
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To get the site a bit more crowded we need to do something. First of all, I think we should get rid of the SouperGuy skin. The graphics used in it are great, but it renders horrible. Also, it isn't very apealing. The Lisa skin is being used by a lot of users and Sandman's new Blue Deamon skin, although a lot like Lisa, is a great skin i.m.o. At the frontpage we have space for some random games, like DIV-Arena's "WIP of the Day". It could be between the welcome message and news. 2 Or 3 different game blocks could be shown there. There are more than enough games, wips and demo's on BS so it'll be diverse enough. BS could also be promoted. Not directly at other sites like BS, but we could contact other developers. Even proffesional indies. It would fill up the games library we have and the more developers submitting their stuff, the more interesting it gets for them and their fans to post here. It has also been mentioned to add articles to the website. But would that really be a wise thing to do? So many other sites already cover that part. Also, how many people are willing to contribute? Instead of articles we could create a knowledge base for all langauges, API's etc. Just a thought. I like helping out BS and like working on it. But I don't want it all to be a waste. Eventually we want to attract more people to this site. But if that isn't happening, what am I spending my time on then? 
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| February 12, 2008, 01:01 | |
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Rincewind
programmer 1545 posts 
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Quoting Htbaa: First of all, I think we should get rid of the SouperGuy skin. The graphics used in it are great, but it renders horrible. Also, it isn't very apealing. The Lisa skin is being used by a lot of users and Sandman's new Blue Deamon skin, although a lot like Lisa, is a great skin i.m.o. If I interpret Frimkron's words in this thread (below) correctly, then I think he wants to wait for a new and polished skin to come along before changing the default. Quoting Frimkron: It needs to be done properly. I think in particular the default skin should be one that will appeal to new visitors but doesn't necessarily have to be one that you would use yourself regularly. And despite it's colors and childish appeal, Souperguy is indeed the most polished skin, and that's important for a site's default. However, it will probably take a while before another polished skin comes along. We won't have much to lose changing it to the currently most used skin (Lisa) - new people obviously aren't joining this site right now (except for bots abusing the site's registration massively) - but I don't think we will have much to win either, at this stage. While I thought Sandman's Lisa alteration has an awful color scheme, it's title graphic certainly is better than Lisa's. Maybe we can use that header on Lisa, and then make Lisa the default? And something just sprung to mind - during the development stage of Souperguy, there was a graphical skin like Souperguy that could be used, with whitish colors, and a raster as background, made by Frimkron. Do you perhaps still have that skin, Frimkron? While I can't remember it completely, at the time I thought it was pretty decent. Quoting Htbaa: At the frontpage we have space for some random games, like DIV-Arena's "WIP of the Day". It could be between the welcome message and news. 2 Or 3 different game blocks could be shown there. There are more than enough games, wips and demo's on BS so it'll be diverse enough. I think an ideal situation would be a second set of boxes on the right of the content, we are going to need the extra space eventually. There we could have WIP of the day, highly rated games, newest game, latest worklog entries, and what else people were hoping for. Putting things like that between the welcome message and news would push the content down too much. We certainly have something to learn from DIV-Arena and Flamingbird when it comes to this. Quoting Htbaa: BS could also be promoted. Not directly at other sites like BS, but we could contact other developers. Even proffesional indies. It would fill up the games library we have and the more developers submitting their stuff, the more interesting it gets for them and their fans to post here. Sounds like a good idea. Maybe we should go about this together with DTM and Ian Price, both people that come on other game development sites a lot and have connections there. For the Boolean Soup 2006 competition Ian price and I Quoting Htbaa: It has also been mentioned to add articles to the website. But would that really be a wise thing to do? Yes, and as far as I'm concerned it's an important feature too. It's actual content, and that is what attracts people. On my former PC-Creation site (which was a very small game development community), the articles/tutorials were the main source of new joiners, and ironically these tutorials caused a lot more site traffic than Boolean Soup currently has. The internet has sites that act as tutorial indexes (for example http://www.good-tutorials.com), and by adding links to your tutorials on there, you can quickly generate a lot of traffic. (PS. This thread could've easily gone into the public development forum - I think DTM certainly would have had something to say on the topic of contacting developers, as he proposed something similar in this thread.) ____________ Personal website: http://www.loijson.com |
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| February 12, 2008, 01:18 | |
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Sandman
F3n!x0r 1194 posts 
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For the record: Blue Daemon is just a recolouring of Lisa, with a new banner. Lisa is a near perfect skin for me and I just wanted a fresh colour, hehe. While I think articles might help, I do think it is less important than other things, like a new skin, mainpage, etc. There is no utilities section where I could put DLL's! ____________ BennuWiki Yes, my avatar has grey borders in IE (so get a decent browser) ROOFLEZ ROOFLEZ |
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| February 12, 2008, 08:07 | |
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Fiona
games are terrible -9616558 posts 
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Feel free to move this thread, it doesn't really belong here.
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| February 15, 2008, 10:12 | |
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PEader
お前はもう死んでいる 1486 posts 
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Quoting Rincewind: Quoting Htbaa: First of all, I think we should get rid of the SouperGuy skin. The graphics used in it are great, but it renders horrible. Also, it isn't very apealing. The Lisa skin is being used by a lot of users and Sandman's new Blue Deamon skin, although a lot like Lisa, is a great skin i.m.o. If I interpret Frimkron's words in this thread (below) correctly, then I think he wants to wait for a new and polished skin to come along before changing the default. Quoting Frimkron: It needs to be done properly. I think in particular the default skin should be one that will appeal to new visitors but doesn't necessarily have to be one that you would use yourself regularly. And despite it's colors and childish appeal, Souperguy is indeed the most polished skin, and that's important for a site's default. The best skin on the site is Lisa. This is proven by the fact that the majority uses Lisa. If you can't even fix the skin to something decent I don't see the point. This waiting for a polished skin rather then just changing the default one to a skin people actually like and use is a load of bullshit. One of the reasons booleansoup wasn't developed and other people weren't allowed develop it in the first place was because the developers wanted to make it more polished. Why wait when you already have an excellent working skin in Lisa? This is not how things get done. We'll be waiting until eternity for a polished skin when all we want is one that works and works now. I can't bare to use souperguy. The graphics make it look busy. The contrast between the colours are too low making it hard to read. The colours are dull unappealing. Why is this skin the default skin? If the colour scheme was changed and the graphics taken out it would work much better. ____________ I see 57,005 people. |
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| February 15, 2008, 10:29 | |
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Fiona
games are terrible -9616558 posts
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I think it needs a better banner before it can be used as default, but I'm all for doing that for the time being.
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| February 15, 2008, 14:52 | |
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DTM
Earthling! 821 posts 
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Indeed please make Lisa the default. The souperguy or whatever is nicely designed and nice graphics but Lisa has nicer colours and is cleaner and clearer. I'd like to make some posts advertising BS, e.g. as a place to upload stuff. But you want to wait for more content? But if more content is going to be a long time coming we may as well advertise twice... ____________ :o |
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| February 15, 2008, 16:16 | |
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(. )( .)
top pussy 447 posts 
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Threads do look alright in Lisa but everything else is shit if you ask me. The board view is just generic, boring, confusing, I hate it. Most of the templates don't make any definition between poster info and the post itself in threads. Neither does Lisa. Also in board views, why isn't there any definition between different topics? IT'S THE SUCKS IF YOU ASK ME. I think Platypus' board view is actually the best of them all, threads on the other hand look absolutely rubbish. Dr Pepper 2's board view is propably the second best. The colour schemes might need some work though. There's definitely room for a proper skin. YES I'M USING WILFORD BRIMLEY. ____________ gay |
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