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August 28, 2015, 02:51
Quantum
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To resurrect this awesome place? :what:
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August 29, 2015, 13:42
OScoder
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Imo it's pretty simple - a few people doing active development of interesting games! Not perfect or polished ones - just interesting and fun! Also games that run on mobile platforms and the browser is pretty key - else new people won't be interested.

What online games these days lack is that they have no personality, whereas personality is something we've normally been good at here :)
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August 29, 2015, 14:45
Quantum
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I definitely agree about the Mobile + Webapp additions. Most of my work nowadays is webapps -- it'd be cool to add support for this stuff.

I had a "vision" of a gaming community where cranking out half-assed games was highly appreciated / valued. Now, understandably, this site does provide that already with WIPs & Demos. However, it seems like there's no desire to release anything. It's like the fear of uploading something because you're concerned it will be ignored :/

Maybe we could do some brainstorming for how to:
- pimp this place out
- get a bigger community
- lead more traffic here to begin the Rebirth

Example:
- A competition that we try to spread the word about. It could be as shameless as "The Rebirth Competition". The title both promotes the physical rebirth of the site and requires developers to make a "rebirth" themed game. Promoting externally will be a necessity, and maybe even giving some incentive (cash? joystick trophy? rubber chicken?).


(I'm assuming this has been discussed before... but in the event that it hasn't...)

P.S. What does Ludum Dare have that we don't? And is that what's making all the difference?
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September 15, 2015, 13:59
DTM
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821 posts

> What does Ludum Dare have that we don't?

People? People that still program games? HIPSTERS?!

The original DIV Arena was a good place for newbie devs to learn how to make the games.

The new equivalents are probably the communities around things like Unity, Oculus Rift, or other things... This placed died when DIV died, really.

The world has moved on ;_;

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for the sake of seriousness, here's some thoughts:

- massive effort in newbie game dev tutorials and LEARNING, with newest technologies.
- revamped/modernised forums generally
- some kind of focus on githubs and sharing and open source stuffs

but I don't see it being reborn in any fashion without a good number of highly motivated game developers, which there isn't. And some kind of binding *focus*, something more than a general purpose forum.
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September 21, 2015, 19:17
OScoder
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Yeah - sharing code on github and that is definitely good for community.

Always shared my code even though my games were shit :aharr: because other people's code is what taught me and helped me to learn.

The best example is the old RPG tutorial I think - http://www.booleansoup.com/ind … =full&id=98 - helped loads of people to understand important stuff like scrolling, hardness maps.

I think there was a platformer tutorial back in the day too? Stuff like that is well important for new devs. I guess nowadays, we'd want like basic 101s for a platformer (jumping, collisions, etc), and an fps (instant shots, etc).

That said 2d can still be good for web platforms and mobiles and that. New div-in-html5 things I've seen could be a good entry point for us, if we had some half-decent tutorials!

Also, in all seriousness, this place is a total fucking clique for people who were about during DIVs heyday. Unless we can get a whole bunch of old DIVers to come back, we would need to cut out some of the old stuff (boredome, all that) too actually get some new blood. What made DIV cool was people were actually helpful and it felt a whole lot less corporate than the DarkBasic community, and most other game dev engines. The site was a bit shitty but it FELT like a community and it belonged to us. You have to give the new people room to make their own culture and cliques.

I'd say - integrate with social media a bit, make some of (admittedly awesome) bullshit less front-facing, sort out a couple decent resources, then get a crew together to go around promoting it. Like, a kids should learn to code type thing. We taught ourselves and made a couple awesome games when computers were way more shit so they can too. Would be a nice change from all the corporate government run learn to code bullshit out there. (like raspberry pi -what a fucking stupid thing. Kids want to make decent-looking games for phones, not make fucking leds flash!)

A good english-language community for bennu that actually got people into coding would be fucking awesome. BUt if you've got this far through my drunk rant you'll realise it's a fuck of a lot more effort than our community can probably do.

I say lets get the few of us still about out for a drink and see what the fuck happens. We made a fucking cool community for ourselves through lots of people pitching in. Maybe we can help make something else too. Or maybe we can just have a drink for old-times sake. Whatever - that's a win win so far as I'm concerned :D
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October 9, 2015, 09:21
Dennis
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I think by now Booleansoup already didn't exist longer than it actually existed. :(

I don't even remember what my games were, because it has been like 15 years. Since I'm 30 it means it has been half my lifetime ago. :(

There are some pubs in Brussels here but Brussels is ugly and it stinks. I recommend a survival Arabic or Syrian language course before travelling here anyway. :(
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November 4, 2015, 11:17
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I don't even remember anymore how did Div-Arena die - was there any time to transition to a new place when FastTrak pulled the plug? Obviously Div itself was a bit of problem also, as the port to Windows failed to ever surface and in general Div wasn't getting new features.

As for the oldtimers, one of the problems is age and the realities related to age. One can't just hang around, "make games" and have fun after a certain age. People grow up and start families and earn money and whatever. Getting old sucks not because you get old, but because you grow up. And also because you get old.



Wait, nobody said anything about the oldtimers? Never mind. I must be getting old.

Anyhow, looks like you guys are the opinion that basically a full re-invention is required if this place was ever blossom "again" - essentially killing off the left-overs of our once great community. I like BS because it's underground!

Good ideas up there though and I'll tag along what ever happens or if nothing happens.
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December 9, 2015, 07:11
Dennis
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This was truly the best underground hipster community I've ever been part of. :'(
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January 25, 2016, 10:49
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447 posts

What you mean was?


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February 16, 2016, 21:50
Mezzmer
Square-theorist
792 posts

I am an oldtimer you git.
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February 16, 2016, 21:53
Mezzmer
Square-theorist
792 posts

Certainly I'd like to announce my first android Play Store game app title, which I shall be doing on User News.

So yeah the place can still exist(?) and I'll try to help make it awesome from time to time!

Because we are pretty awesome.

edit: Congrats OSCoder on your achievement



[Edited on February 16, 2016 by Mezzmer]
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September 8, 2022, 16:34
Dennis
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He now has 1338 posts. Not bad in 6 years.
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